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Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

SiNTAX — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:51:15 -0000

Wow Twiggy, set off a little shit storm here, don't mind if I grab a chair and some popcorn...

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

HopelessDeveloper — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:39:47 -0000

None of those are valid reasons, since it's highly suggestive. There are 29 million PSN users, as opposed to 17 million on the 360... how many of those are active accounts and gold memberships?

PSN is easier to get into, because it is free and available to everyone with an internet connection. The community is head and shoulder above xbox live in maturity level. I used to play xbox live religiously. I've even played Gears for MLG. I'm not some fanboy, it is the simple truth. So unless you are saying that L4D shouldn't be played by mature adults, and should be targeted at brats who think cussing masks the fact that they are social misfits, well then keep this POS multi-platform game on as few platforms as possible.

And the easier integration is also a joke, you need to jump through ridiculous hoops to meet the Microsoft TCRs, that force you to abandon all creativity and make your game the way they want you to. Sony offers more freedom, and some developers like Naughty Dog have made a better multiplayer experience than anything ever put on the 360 by far.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

HopelessDeveloper — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:31:31 -0000

I've given up on Valve, when they refused to update their shitty technology, or hire competent programmers. Learn to program for anything that isn't a PC (or a dumbed down PC like the 360), it isn't that hard, almost every other developer is able to.

What gets to me is how they are trying to mask their inability to be a competent developer, with fabricated limitations in the PS3 structure, that just don't exist. Valve shut your mouth until you earn the right to talk.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

SKhan — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:25:44 -0000

Came here via N4G.com rss.

Being a PC gamer who has never owned a console except PSP, I have to say I love Valve games but as with most PC gamers, I have huge admiration for their support for the platform.

However, even I am disappointed at how immature a stance Valve takes against Playstation platform. Frankly, Valve is not gaining many admirations by being so silly and opinionated... even among its loyal fanbase.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

fuckyou intheass — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:23:58 -0000

Is your name Randy Pitchford? Or are you just a typical PS3 fanboy? OR IS IT BOTH?!

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

bellybuster12 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:22:15 -0000

look like they came out five years ago.........but when ever a valve games comes out it sweeps the awards.

lol@ps3 fanboys

grow up

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

crossed23 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:13:50 -0000

I think basically what your saying Twiggy is that to some gaming is more than just the games. If you keep up with developers as I do, and one such as Valve comes out and talkes like the article does, its just not professional, and as a consumer it makes you not want the product. Im I go to a resturant and the waiter/waitress is talking complete trash about a store across the street I would get up and walk out, and I would prob go to the other store, especially if they have better service.

Re: Playstation Hardware Accounts For Over Half Of The Japanese Sales Charts This Week

Scott — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:57:16 -0000

Good news for sony!

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

Alch — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:31:15 -0000

So basically your saying, if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all in relations to the PS3?

They gave a valid reason why the Xbox is more intune with L4D2. It has a better community, more live users, and easier integration. <shrug>

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

dside — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:13:22 -0000

They're trying to conceal the fact that they're fat lazy idiots. It's been a known fact for years. With Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Modern Warfare 2, Assassin's Creed 2, etc etc on the ps3, I couldn't give a fuck less about their games that look as if they had come out five years ago.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

cfsage — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:49:37 -0000

If a developer speaks his mind they "come across as utter idiots"? That doesn't sound fair. Point of the matter is is that Valve wasn't happy with what happened to its PS3 port of The Orange Box. They're just not interested in investing the time, money, and research in developing for the PS3. The architecture is very different from the Windows and XBOX 360 platform, they also have a solid community between both XBOX LIVE and Steam. Your going to criticize them for focusing their efforts and bringing out good products?

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

Anon — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:49:31 -0000

"Except that the PS3s hardware is better so when devs say the games aren't possible on 360, they actually mean it."

Not true. Not matter what the companies want you to believe the X360 is more powerful. I work on games for a living, and within the industry it is a well known fact that the PS3 is the min spec console.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

supra5mge — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:37:39 -0000

Wow the haters really come out fast. I myself love exclusives too. I love all of my systems and spend too much time on all of them. Valve probably feels that because so many people on PSN are silent (read:Don't talk smack!) that the community is dead. I never put a mic on when I play 360 cuz I don't want to hear pwn pwn pwn over and over again. While yes you do get that on Playstation from time to time I think the age of the core user base makes itself apparent. We realize it is JUST A GAME and never take it too seriously, instead opting to have fun with some relaxing conversation.
This generation of consoles is crazy with all of the Fanboys. Most of my friends that own only a PS3 wont touch the 360 and vise versa. I just don't get it. Oh well.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

luisx — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:36:42 -0000

Talk is cheap, if when the time comes for valve to make a PS3 game people will buy it. Do you really believe that what he said was actully heard by a great enough number of people to affect sales, And even those who say they will not buy it, do you really think that they will miss out on a potential game of the year, that is of course if the person talking is a real gamer. Actually a real gamer wouldn't even worry about which console it on.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

Duh — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:30:15 -0000

Except that the PS3s hardware is better so when devs say the games aren't possible on 360, they actually mean it.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

nutbear96 — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:21:57 -0000

Well everyone has a computer, right? And Valve games are only good on PC, right? So why don't they just cencel making games on Xbox and just for PC and then it will make PC gaming popular again and Valve makes the best PC games, right? And Valve runs Steam so Steam would have better sales, right? So just stop making games on for Microsoft (consoles!) and just focus on PC because if you play The Orange Box or Left 4 Dead on Xbox you aren't getting the better experience (PC).

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

imagamernotahater — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:58:01 -0000

so by that reasoning, the PS3 exclusive developers should also shut their mouths when they come out with the obviously bull that their game is not possible on the 360 and can only be done on the 360. Talk about pot kettle. but thenj i dont hear you writing an editorial about that. then again this is a sony / ps3 website what else should we expect.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

leveldead — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:36:54 -0000

If you're done with their products over this then it clearly shows how personal you take things and how you are actually the problem when one talks about this console wars crap. Why? Well because other developers like Naughty Dog say the same things but they just have a little more class when they say it. They favor the PS3 and they at times speak as though they work for Sony and not as a game maker. Valve favors the Xbox 360 as it's closer to home for them. Naughty Dog favors the PS3 as it too is home to them. So when Valve says that Live is head and shoulders above PSN it's the same thing as our games are only possible on the PS3.

So in the end it's all about the games. Not the PR crap that goes with it.

Re: Valve Should Really Shut Their Mouth – “Twiggy” The PushSquare Opinionator

Paranoimia — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:54:22 -0000

The only Valve game I ever played was Half Life, and I hated it because of its stupid ending.

As far as I'm concerned, I can easily do without Valve and their games - there are better titles out there from better developers, and they'll miss my money a lot more than I miss their games.

If they still feel that the PS3 is hard to develop for, when smaller, supposedly 'lesser' developers companies are turning out amazing titles on PS3, then Valve simply come across as inept and incapable. Hell, even one-man teams - today's equivalent of the 80s C64 and Spectrum 'bedroom coders' - are perfectly capable of developing decent titles for sale on PSN.

I can only presume that there's some kind of love-in going on behind the scenes as a result of Gabe's years working at Microsoft. Regardless of whether that sounds like a fanboy quote, it's the only logical explanation. I can't see it being a pay-off, as that wouldn't seem logical; the user-base of the PS3 may be smaller than the 360's, but it's still huge, and there's a shitload of money to be made from it - more, surely, than even MS would be willing to pay for a handful of games from one developer.

Re: So Battlefield: Bad Company 2’s Multiplayer Continues To Look Amazing

SiNTAX — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:48:52 -0000

Holy shit that was good! I love Battlefield!

Looks like the Specialist class is getting the rocket launcher from the demo class? Also good to see that you can now use the iron sites for the specialist weapons, bout time to. I can see me buying this for all 3 platforms again. Wish my clan members had PS3's but without Party Chat (360) or Skype (PC) it's not gonna happen :(

Re: Valve Employee Commits Fanboy Suicide, Labels Playstation 3 Gamers Inferior

Stew — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:04:42 -0000

I had a 360, sold it, and now have a PS3, and the PS3 community is MUCH better.

Quality not quantity. XBox Live is full of 12yr old Americans screaming constant abuse into their mics. I don't want to pay for that.

Most of my mates now how a PS3 too, and it's the way gaming is going. Valve are just locking themselves out in the cold and making it harder to swallow their pride later on, when it's obvious they are supporting a niche 360 market, and ignoring a 70% PS3 dominance.

Re: Valve Employee Commits Fanboy Suicide, Labels Playstation 3 Gamers Inferior

SiNTAX — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:05:36 -0000

Really can't get over this, Valve are one of the few Dev's I have proper respect for. For me gamers are gamers, who give's a fuck what console you play, not every one can afford/wants all consoles, so to pick out one community is shameful at best, time to pop over to Valve forums and get a little personal...

Re: Valve Employee Commits Fanboy Suicide, Labels Playstation 3 Gamers Inferior

twitter-75090727 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:50:09 -0000

I like Valve very much!!! REALLY!!!!! They've created one of my favorite game!!!! HALF-LIFE is the one of the BEST actions!!!! BUT such a rude talking....I thought better of them((((

Re: Silent Hill: Shattered Memories Hits PSP & PS2 February 2010 In Europe

dan — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:07:04 -0000

Wish there was some gameplay of the ps2 version :(
but looks like a really good Silent Hill to come (big fan)

Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Not Phased By Playstation 3 Sales Performance

crossed23 — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:16:52 -0000

Better wake up Reggie or you will be watching on the sideline because Im one of the many Nintendo purist that got so fed up with your casual crap I sold my Wii and half my Nintendo games and now own just a PS3!!!